NAVASA discuss the making of their album “When Angels Dream”, and get down and dirty about zero-point energy

by Justin Clauss/Tiefhaus

Where is NAVASA based out of?

Biribauer: NAVASA originated in Denver, CO, but we have since re-located to Maryland. We loved the mountains and wide open spaces of Colorado, but we decided to be nearer our families on the East Coast. Tammy grew up in the heart of Pennsylvania, and I’m originally from Toronto, Canada.

Everett: We now live in the country. The locals call this part of the world the ‘Slower Lower’. It’s had a positive effect on our musical outlook.

What kind of musical background did you grow up with?

Everett: I’ve been around music all my life. My Dad was a jobbing drummer around eastern Pennsylvania. He would have me sit behind his 1958 Slingerland kit, showing me various techniques, mainly jazz. At some point, he got me a cheap guitar and I banged away on that for a couple of years. I also picked up piano and eventually got myself a synth to play along to my favorite songs. This lead me to playing live beside DJs and others.

Biribauer: I started my musical journey when I found an old acoustic guitar of my Dad’s that was lying around. I took lessons when I was 16 years old when a local band needed a bass player. My teacher, Grant Tomkinson, was teaching me The Beatles “With A Little Help From My Friends” by the third week. That bass line is totally sick! I guess he figured I could wrap my brain around it. All that opened my ears and eyes to the power of music and how the masters break traditional music concepts.

What other works have you released in the past?

Everett: We released two 5-song instrumental EPs called Sensurreal and On And On through Ralenteer Records & Rights Management NYC in 2014 and 2015. Ralenteer is now defunct, so those EPs are no longer available. We might re-release them at some point, but there are no immediate plans.

We also released a full album called Dustification through the UK label Nodeski/Datablender in 2015, plus a couple of singles through Nikita Digital/Tiefhaus, based out of San Francisco and Berlin, entitled “Escape From You” and “Lazy Dayz”.

Biribauer: Those two singles feature Tammy’s vocals. Up to now, most of our output has been purely instrumental, but occasionally, when we feel it fits, we’ve had Tammy sing. In 2017 we released an all-instrumental album called 1963, but When Angels Dream features quite a bit of Tammy’s vocals.

What went into making this album?

Everett: When Angels Dream is a culmination of 7 years of working together. Some of the concepts and first ideas date back to 2011 and took years to realize their full potential. We also knew that Angels would not be genre specific, that it was about incorporating jazz and alternative and progressive rock into our electronica base.

Bands like Pink Floyd, How to Destroy Angels and Massive Attack, as well as Miles Davis and Billie Holiday, were touchstones for this record. Of course as always, we tried to make everything sound as uniquely NAVASA as possible.

Biribauer: Angels took on a life of its own that was almost in another dimensional universe apart from our other albums. There were some false starts, long gestating periods, some re-imagining of concepts. We followed our muse in the most natural way possible, but we also knew this album was a step above.

Can you give us some examples of the songwriting process?

Everett: Sure. The song “If I Ever” started out as a bombastic waltz-time ballad that we eventually abandoned and came up with track you hear now. “And This Too Shall Pass” was recorded over a two year span, with parts being added here or there, finally winding up in that Floyd-esque type jam at the end. “Intravenous” began as a somber instrumental electronica vibe, which you hear at the beginning, but then developed into a full blown rant against fake news. I’m just sick to my stomach about how the mainstream media has hi-jacked the narrative to serve the deep state, so I busted out those lyrics.

Biribauer: We try our best to let material develop in a natural way, with no rules as to what it should sound like, but rather what it could sound like. After we finished 1963 back in November 2017, which is a great instrumental album in it’s own right, we felt that it was time to push through and complete Angels.

In an alternate reality, not doing or pursuing music, what would you be doing?

Everett: Well, we would really enjoy running a music school for children. Oh, that’s still music, isn’t it? Well, we would love to help people somehow. Maybe run a mission and feed the homeless. Or how about starting an international campaign to stop geoengineering? We’re kind of tired of breathing in barium, aluminum and other toxic particles that are extremely harmful to our health, land and air, because the government is trying to fix the mess fossil fuel has done to our planet. It’s an attempt to decrease global warming and keep everyone addicted to antiquated fossil fuel energy.

Go on.

Everett: Well, the bottom line is that we could have zero-point energy TODAY, the technology was discovered by Nikola Tesla in the earlier part of the 20th century, but it’s been suppressed. The oil barons, along with the shadow government and deep state, want us tied to 19th century-era fossil fuel concepts because that’s where their money is. Zero-point energy would mean free-for-everyone, and that goes against their bullshit agenda. The world has lost 100 years of technology advancement due to greed and the cabal’s addiction to power.

Don’t just take our word for it, you can research the internet and find Dane Wigington at While he is called a conspiracy theorist and worse by the legacy media, he’s the only one funding his own scientific research and analysis, proving time and time again what geoengineering is doing to us and the planet. You can also find 175 US patents that prove such practices have been occurring for the last 60 years. Those patents are out there to find. You just gotta look.

Are you guys UFO believers?

Everett: Absolutely. We’ve seen and heard them right outside our house here in Sharptown, MD. Our tin-foil hats are outside in the car (laughs).

From what you’ve mentioned, I would reckon that NAVASA might be conspiracy theorists.

Biribauer: Well, conspiracy is the new truth. What are we actually? We are awake.

Okay. Back to music. So what embarrassing songs would any of your friends or family find on your mp3 player?

Biribauer: Hmmmm… Okay. Well, there’s “Ring My Bell” by Anita Ward, “Eastbound and Down” by Jerry Reed and “Macho Man” by the Village People. That Village People track is REALLY embarrassing, but it’s just to have a laugh now and then.

What is your dream musical project?

Biribauer: To do what we’re doing now, but to have Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich produce it for us. Then maybe have Brian Eno pop by for a listen.

How did you come up with the name NAVASA?

Everett: From the outset, our concept was to make timeless music that could let a listener travel without moving, something that could be absorbed endlessly if stranded on a deserted island.

Biribauer: We then started looking for deserted islands on Google Earth. We eventually landed on Navassa Island, located near Haiti in the Caribbean Sea. It’s not completely deserted, but it was close enough. It also hints at the acronym for National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Since a lot of our music is pretty spacey, it seemed a perfect fit for us.

Any final thoughts?

Everett: Music is everything to us. It’s our blood, our air and our home. We hope people will feel that kind of connection when listening to our albums.